From UFOs to psychic powers and government conspiracies, history is riddled with unexplained events.

You can turn back now, or learn the stuff they don't want you to know.

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Welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. My name is Noel.

They call me Ben. We are joined with our super producer, Paul Mission Control Deckend.

Most importantly, you are you, you are here. And that makes this stuff they don't want you to know.

This is in some ways a sequel episode. It's a follow up to our previous episode,

MK Ultra 101, in which we described exactly what MK Ultra is.

Equally as important, we describe what it is not, and how the public learned about it.

Today, however, we are looking beyond that twisted origin story. We're going off the charted

proven paths. We're going across the edges of the map. We're exploring the conspiracies and

allegations related to MK Ultra in the modern day. Listeners, this episode contains content that

may be disturbing to some of us in the audience. And that means you can turn back now,

or walk with us just a bit further away from the lights. Oh, I like that. That's a twist on it.

And I really like that. It's true. As you know, Matt, this is very much true in this episode.

Well, let's, I mean, let's, let's start off with something easy, something simple. What is MK Ultra?

For anyone who said, I see MK Ultra 101 in that podcast feed, but forget that, I want 201.

Yes, well, 102. Okay. I think 201 is the right way to go. That's right. I think that's the way

Georgia State would do it. So that's my, that's my face. I'm a lot. Yeah. So the first thing you have

to do is not think about MK Ultra as one thing. It is not one thing. It is a series of things of

projects, of expectations, of different experiments, of different groups of people who are, who are not

necessarily working together. A lot of times the aims were very similar, but you know, you have

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