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The McKay Coppins piece is devastating for a whole bunch of reasons. I read it and had many

simultaneously simultaneous thoughts. One is this is a phenomenal piece of

writing and reporting. It really is.

I didn't know that McKay had that in him, honestly.

I've always liked him as a writer,

but this is like a whole level up above what I thought he was capable of.

It's very impressive.

It's outstanding. And I got to say just real quickly like the Tim Alberta because this was it was sort of one of these Tim Alberta like things or he's putting you in the space he's giving you psychological access to somebody

and it doesn't feel exploitative and it doesn't feel it's just it but it's it's perfect

I was it's perfect I was it's perfect I can't wait to read his book

Yeah. I almost never say that

habit of doing this with with writers like he's the editorial team that he's assembled over there is really helping their writers grow.

They're the only ones that are better than us.

And they're the only ones that are better than us.

Yeah, well, I mean it's scale.

I wouldn't say better, but you, but I mean this as an editor you definitely see I would say

Jennifer Senior yeah Emma Greg Emma Green who's no longer there

Olga whose name I can't remember,

it's like a Russian-E, Kazakh-Kistan or something.

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