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Woman's Hour

Mistresses, Ultrasound 'bra', Diane Foley, Black girls in education

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture

4.13K Ratings

🗓️ 22 February 2024

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

It is has been 11 years since the American journalist James Foley was kidnapped in northern Syria, and nearly a decade since his mother, Diane Foley, discovered he had been beheaded by Islamic State fighters. Diane has written a book with the novelist Colum McCann, called American Mother, in which she recounts the story of her son’s kidnapping and murder, and her campaign to improve the chances of Americans wrongfully detained abroad. She joins Emma Barnett in the studio.

In the UK, breast cancer is the most common type of cancer; around 55,000 women are diagnosed every year. Emma speaks to Professor Canan Dagdeviren, who has invented a piece of wearable tech that fits inside a bra which may lead, one day in the future, to the creation of an ultrasound bra, able to screen for breast cancer in between check-ups. Canan featured on the BBC’s 100 Women list for 2023 and first sketched the idea at her aunt Fatma’s bedside, who had been diagnosed with breast cancer.

From Queen Camilla to Monica Lewinsky, has the perception of mistresses changed in recent decades? Someone who believes that the so-called 'other woman' has had a cultural rebrand is the author Madeleine Gray, who has written a novel about an affair - but from the perspective of the mistress. Green Dot follows 24-year-old Hera who starts a messy relationship with an older married colleague. Madeleine joins Emma to discuss.

How do black girls and women experience education in Britain today? Sociologist Dr April-Louise Pennant of Cardiff University joins Emma to discuss why the adultification of black girls means that Black Caribbean girls are excluded from school at double the rate of white girls and why intersectionality means the issue of afro hair continues to affect black girls' education today. She explores these issues and more in her book, Babygirl, You’ve Got This! Experiences of Black Girls and Women in the English Education System.

Presenter: Emma Barnett Studio manager: Duncan Hannant

Transcript

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0:00.0

If you could have a conversation with your younger self, what would you tell them?

0:06.0

Anonymity is our most valuable gift.

0:09.0

I'm Kristi Young, and in Young again, I'll be asking my guests what honest advice they would give their past self.

0:16.0

Believe it when they say that loving yourself is the answer.

0:20.0

Among those joining me will be Jamie Oliver, Jeda Pinkett Smith and Mel B.

0:24.1

I knew that I had a voice and I knew that I wanted to say certain things and represent certain things.

0:30.0

Young again, with me, Kirstie Young,

0:33.0

listen on BBC Sounds.

0:36.0

BBC Sounds.

0:36.0

BBC Sounds, music radio podcasts.

0:40.0

Hello I'm Emma Barnet and welcome to Womonsa from BBC Radio 4.

0:45.0

Good morning and welcome to the programme.

0:48.0

Today is one of those days where I'm able to say that what you're about to hear, you won't hear anywhere else. That's because what's happened to my first guest is so

0:57.7

incredibly distressing and important in terms of the state of the world that we're living in right now.

1:04.0

Diane Foley's son, the American journalist James Foley, was tortured and killed in 2014

1:10.0

by Islamic State militants who became known as the IS Beatles on account of their British accents and upbringing.

1:17.1

These men left the UK for Syria in their view to fight a war.

1:21.6

I'll tell you more about Diane and her beloved boy in just a moment, but my conversation

1:26.3

with her comes on the same day that the man, Sir William Shawcross, tasked with reviewing

1:31.1

the UK government's counter-terrorism scheme, Prevent,

1:34.8

is warning that key recommendations he's made have been ignored,

1:38.4

leaving the public at risk.

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