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Hey guys, and welcome to the Moms and Mysteries podcast.

A true crime podcast featuring myself, Mandy, and my dear friend Melissa.

Hi, Melissa.

Hi, Mandy, how are you? I am doing pretty good this week. How are you?

I'm doing great. I feel like we've seen each other. Well, we've seen each other two days in a row. Tomorrow will be three. That's a lot.

Oh my gosh. That's like overload. More than ever. That's more than ever. Too much. About me, not about you. Wow. Wow. Okay. Just getting right into the digs 30 seconds in. Yeah. Absolutely. Speaking of the new year, now is a great time. If you'd like to get ad-free episodes as well as a ton of bonus content over on Patreon, patreon. Patreon.com slash moms and mysteries podcast. You can always just sign up for a free membership and you'll see the calendars as we post them. So something's interesting

to you. You can jump in, jump out, whatever you want, but that will be there. Tomorrow we're dropping

the first episode of a two-parter on the Jerry Springer fights camera action documentary on Netflix. So, so, so good.

Mandy's been sending me quotes from it and I just, again, she's watching TV, so I'm thrilled.

Yeah. So again, that's patreon.com slash moms and mysteries podcast. So we're actually recording this

episode on January 9th. And as all of you know, if you're following the news lately, there is just devastating fires that are happening in California right now. I've been seeing like the scariest videos and footage and people's stories that they're like saying like being trapped in their homes and not

being able to get out and just how fast all of these fires have kind of taken over. So if you live

in the area or if you especially if you've had to evacuate, we hope everybody is safe. Like that

is terrifying to think of losing. Just the videos I've been seeing is just devastating. So yeah, so if you do live out that way, our friends over in the West, we are thinking of you and hope that all of you are safe and with your loved ones. Absolutely. And the story that we have this week actually comes from California. And it is a relatively recent story. It's a story that R. Haley was able to work with

some family members of the missing person in the story this week, and we are very fortunate that

we're able to share the story, and so we're going to get right into it. The story of Nikki Chang,

Saylee McCain, began on November 9, 1984 1984, amidst the chaos and uncertainty in Southeast Asia in the aftermath of the Vietnam War.

Born in a refugee camp, Nikki was the third of seven kids that were born to her very resilient parents.

They had lived in Laos during the Vietnam War, but when countless families

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