Hi, crime junkies. I'm your host Ashley Flowers and I'm Brett and Brett when am I gonna learn? Oh god what now?

The ultimate crime junkie lesson that there is no such thing as a straightforward case. Oh, yeah, open and shut doesn't exist

Yeah, yeah, if it is a straightforward and open and shut it would be solved

So let me tell you about my week

So the last case that I just got done with was the Brandon Lawson case which we released in the fan club this month now

Our research writing recording adding process isn't like totally linear. So you know

There have been other episodes between them people have heard

But this is like the next one I dived into after Brandon and Brandon's case was a doozy

Like it really yeah made our heads hurt

So I said you know what after this? I'm gonna pick just like a case that's a little more straightforward a little easier to understand

And I remember this case that I'm about to tell you from like years ago

I remember seeing a TV special on it and it seemed again kind of one of those open and shut

But you just like couldn't prove it or whatever and they still needed answers basically a guy goes missing

There was someone kind of shady in his life and I'm like, you know what?

This one's gonna be easy to research

But that's the lesson famous last words famous last words if you dig deep enough into any unsolved case

There is a reason it's unsolved and the complicated web I fell into still has me stuck right smack dab in the middle

This is the story of Jeremy Bert

February 11th, 2007 was as average as Sunday as you could get for the Bert family in Idaho

Jeremy Bert who's in his 30s at the time spent the weekend in American Falls with his three-year-old daughter Mackenzie

They were visiting some of Jeremy's family that lived there and it was so normal in fact that Jeremy's sister told the producers of

Disappeared on ID that when she heard Jeremy and Mackenzie leaving for the day she decided to stay in bed and not to get up and say goodbye

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