Hello, Hidden Gems. I am with veteran journalist Mike Watkins. Mike and I actually just spent a lot of time together. The past few months, actually, for multiple trials of Lori Ballot-Dabal. We would sit there and all of us got to know each other pretty well because we'd have to sit in line for hours and then we'd have to leave and we go to lunch. We have to sit in line again.

And we got to talking and we know similar people in this industry.

We've covered some similar stories.

In particular, stories covering the FLDS church and area referred to a short creek, also known as the Twin Cities, Hilldale, Utah, and Colorado City.

We're going to get into a lot of Mike Watkins' work here because it's really important to a story we're about to try to uncover and figure out.

I have questions for Mike today about a recent Amber

alert and two missing children out of Idaho. Before we get to that, I just want to let all of

you know, many of you don't know this, but I was also a broadcast reporter for about 10 years,

local, and I was the correspondent in Hilldale in Colorado City.

That is often known as the area where the prophet Warren Jeth ruled and reigned.

I was after, I was after Warren Jess was there. Warren Jess was convicted at that time and

I was there as Donya Jessup became the first female

mayor and I reported on that race and those elections. And as Short Creek sort of changed a lot,

where Mike, a lot, you were a reporter when it came to Warren Jeffs.

And you have been a reporter for a lot of the tragedy and mayhem and including the most recent case of Sam Bateman.

Right.

A horrific story that I think the public is still learning about, still unraveling.

He was recently sentenced.

Does that write in Phoenix? And you covered that out of retirement? You came out of retirement for this story. Can you just tell us about that before we

jump into this current story? Absolutely. It's great to see you again. And I want to tell you how much

I enjoyed chatting with you and your producer, Grayson, during the Daybell trial. And I learned so much about the new form of media.

Yeah, we're diving into this war on Jeff's matter that has been the subject of most of my

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