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I'm your host, Eric Carter-Londine, and today I'm joined by a very special guest. Welcome, Maddie, to the show. I found out about you because I read an article. One of my friends that I know named Jonathan wrote the article and I met him for lunch. I think that's the article you're talking about. Yeah.

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I was really impressed by the article.

I learned a lot.

And anybody who listens to the show knows that I really try to talk about all kinds of victims,

all kinds of people who are missing or murdered.

I really don't care if they're,

you know, a different gender than me or a different sexuality than me or they struggle with drug addiction or they're involved in sex work. Like, none of that stuff matters on my show.

Every victim is worthy of justice. Every missing person is worthy of being found.

And the thing about the article that I read that really struck me was you were talking a lot about the missing and murdered trans indigenous people who I think often get overlooked.

We know that missing and murdered indigenous women and girls get overlooked.

We know that most missing indigenous relatives get overlooked as well, but then we add the gender identity to that, and it's even worse. So I just wanted to talk to you, have a conversation about this issue

because it's really important to me to not be like the Chicano guy explaining

to the native people what's going on. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, because we've had so many

stories like that already. Yeah, and it's not my story to tell. It's, it's your story to tell. And it's the

reason why my producer is an indigenous woman and she's the one who writes almost all of the missing

and murdered indigenous relative stories because it's it's your story it's your people's story yes

and you don't need me mansplaining it to you yeah so i just want to say first of all welcome

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