You are listening to Mist Apex Podcast. We live F1.

Robits here. Welcome back to Behind the Barriers, where we take you into the hidden world that exists behind the F1 spectacle and introduce you to some of the most important people you have never heard of because without them, there would be no F1.

But first, a reminder, we are an independent podcast produced in the podcasting shed with the kind support of our patrons and partners.

We aim to bring you a race review before your Monday morning commute.

We might be wrong, but you're first.

So today's guest is someone who honestly knows the secrets of the secrets,

and I am both excited and very much looking forward to finding out which of them he is allowed to talk about.

But first, I need to introduce my partner and podcast crime, Dr. Campbell Waddell,

past master of asphalt disaster, and currently

working on trackwalk, an all-in-one circuit management and homologation solution. Campbell, thanks

again for coming back and helping me out with this. Hi, Matt. Thanks for having me. Looking

forward to it again. Yeah, well, I have to say, if you should ever find yourself deep in the hole,

your so-called friends no longer returning calls, more threatened lawsuits than grains of sand in

the desert, your construction team vanished, your project months behind schedule, and the wrath

of the government you talked into a vast and insanely expensive venture about to come crashing down on your shoulders.

There is only one person you call.

He is the Winston Wolf of F1, and that is Mark Hughes, founder and managing director of

MRK1 Consulting.

Thank you for sharing your valuable time with us today.

Thank you for having me.

I've been looking forward to our conversation today,

and thanks for the great introduction. Well, I do my best, and I have to say, you know,

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