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Jocaris, becaus, welcome to Straight Up With Stasi.

Um, I have Katie Maloney here because this is the thing.

The last 12 times I have been around you, Katie.

The only thing that you can talk about is Taylor Swift's Miss Americana.

To the point where the first seven times that I heard you talk about it,

I was like, I haven't seen it yet.

I haven't seen it yet.

You talking at me about this means absolutely nothing.

I'm just going to have to sit here in my brain and think about shoes as I let you get it all out.

Yes, it's important.

It is. Well, now that I have watched it, it is very important.

So I know you have a shit ton of thoughts on it.

I hope you can repeat yourself because we're just going to spend an episode talking about this.

And I guess we can just talk about how it relates to women in general.

Yeah. And or just people in general and how people feel.

And like even Taylor Swift feels the same way that like someone who works at express feels.

It's the most random place you could possibly pull out.

But like that was the thing I was watching when I was watching this.

When it came out January 31st at two o'clock in the morning,

I was like, how me, Katie Maloney and Valley Village is really so hard going to Taylor Swift superstar.

It's nuts. But you know what?

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