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Breaking Down Patriarchy

Misogyny in the Alt Right - with journalist Elle Reeve

Breaking Down Patriarchy

Amy McPhie Allebest

Education, History, Society & Culture

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 21 January 2025

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Amy is joined by journalist Elle Reeve to discuss her book, Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics. This conversation establishes the histories and intersections of incels, the alt right, and white supremacy movements, plus these subcultures' plans to strip away women's rights and what we can actually do about it.

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Elle Reeve is a CNN correspondent whose work has won numerous awards, including the Emmy, the Peabody, and more. Her writing has appeared in VICE, The New Republic, New York magazine, Elle, The Atlantic, and The Daily Beast. She lives in New York. 

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0:00.0

Welcome to Breaking Down Patriarchy. I'm Amy McPhee, all the best. If you are listening to this episode on the day of its release, then it's the day after the 2025 presidential inauguration. Donald Trump has just been sworn in as the 47th president of the United States. And as we enter into this second term of divisive leadership, many of us

0:23.1

are apprehensive of what lies ahead. After all, it was the last Trump presidency, under which we saw

0:29.2

more and more white supremacists and aspiring fascists marching brazenly through the streets.

0:35.0

Many of us might have been surprised to see open racism and misogyny,

0:40.0

which seemed to be creeping out of the woodwork and our entire country was rattled by the worst

0:45.4

of these occurrences, like the Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville and the insurrection

0:50.1

at our nation's capital on January 6, 2021. These events and other acts of alt-right terrorism

0:56.3

have left permanent scars on our national identity and will likely have consequences

1:01.0

spanning far beyond what we can presently see. And so, with that in mind, I am so grateful

1:07.3

to be joined today by a woman who's been studying the alt-right, white supremacists, and other extremist movements longer than most of us have even been aware of them.

1:16.5

She was a Boots on the Ground journalist in Charlottesville as well as on January 6th.

1:22.2

And she is the author of the book Black Pill, How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life,

1:28.8

Poison Society, and Capture American Politics. Please join me in welcoming to the podcast,

1:33.9

Ellie Reeve. Welcome, Ellie. Thank you. Thank you so much for having me. I'm really, really

1:39.8

interested in the work that you're doing and so excited to talk about it with you today.

1:44.0

First, I'll introduce listeners to you through just and so excited to talk about it with you today. First,

1:44.5

I'll introduce listeners to you through just a quick professional bio, and I'll ask you to

1:48.4

introduce yourself more personally after that. Ellie Reeve is a CNN correspondent whose work has won

1:54.9

numerous awards, including the Emmy, the Peabody, and more. Her writing has appeared in Vice,

2:00.7

The New Republic, New York Magazine, L, the Atlantic,ody, and more. Her writing has appeared in Vice, The New Republic, New York

2:02.0

magazine, Elle, The Atlantic, and The Daily Beast. She lives in New York. So that is a very,

2:08.7

very brief bio. I'd love for you to talk a little bit about who you are, kind of what

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