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Misogyny Has Gone Mainstream. What Can be Done?

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KQED

News, Politics, News Commentary

4.2 • 726 Ratings

🗓️ 18 December 2025

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

The president calling female reporters “piggy”, “stupid” and “ugly.” Claims that liberal feminism has ruined the workplace. The manosphere. Despite the #MeToo movement, protests featuring pussy hats, and political and cultural efforts to call the patriarchy to account, misogyny feels like it’s going strong in 2025. But why? We gather a panel of thinkers and leaders to talk about how misogyny has become mainstream and what can be done about it. Guests: Roxane Gay, scholar and author; her books include "Difficult Women," "Hunger" and "Bad Feminist" Irin Carmon, senior correspondent, New York magazine, She is the author of "Unbearable: Five Women and the Perils of Pregnancy in America" She is also the co-author of "Notorious RBG: The Life and Times of Ruth Bader Ginsburg" Savala Nolan, executive director, Thelton E. Henderson Center for Social Justice, Berkeley Law; author, "Don't Let It Get You Down: Essays on Race, Gender, and the Body." Her forthcoming book is titled, "Good Woman: A Reckoning" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Welcome to Forum. I'm Alexis Madrigal.

0:44.6

I have, for better or worse, been a man my whole life, and I've spent a lot of time with other men in literal locker rooms, on teams and sports bars just around.

0:55.2

That's to say, I've been places where men are talking to other men. And yet these days, the misogyny in the public sphere

1:01.9

shocks and horrifies me. I've never heard any man in my life say in real life anything like

1:07.8

the things we're hearing out of the manosphere or even the president

1:11.9

and the people around him. And that's translating into policies and legal rulings that were

1:16.9

unthinkable in my young adulthood. This is not to say that things have been good for women before

1:22.8

this or that the gender roles and scripts in society have been working for women. But holy hell, it feels

1:28.0

like some dark things have been unleashed in our culture and in our politics. And here to discuss

1:33.7

what's going on and where it came from, we have an all-star panel. We're joined by Roxanne Gay,

1:39.2

scholar and author. Her books include difficult women, hunger and Bad Feminist. Thanks for joining us.

1:44.8

Thank you so much for having me, Alexis.

1:47.0

We're also joined by Erin Carmon, who's a senior correspondent at New York Magazine,

1:51.9

also the author of Unbearable Five Women and the Perils of Pregnancy in America.

1:57.0

Welcome.

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Hi, Alexis.

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