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Of the Law and Order franchises, SVU is considered especially watchable. We are the amateur detectives who kind of investigate the vicious felonies these episodes are based on. These are our stories.

Dun dun. Dun-d-dan.

Yay, that's messed up an SVU podcast.

I'm Lisa Trager.

And I'm Kara Klank.

And every week on this podcast, we unpack an episode of SVU, a true crime it's based on, sometimes an interview, lots of chatting up top.

And what is today? Today is... Everything's a blur. It's so wild. What day of the week is it? Like I, like someone's building

my new website. Hopefully it's up ready. But I remember him being like, it'll be done right before

Thanksgiving. And in my head, I go, geez, that's forever. Now it's time and he

wants approvals. And I was like, it came so fast because I remember him telling me. And I was like,

wow, it takes that long. Also another web thing, I'd like to say. I've been doing a lot of Christmas

shopping. And I gave advice to a bunch of comics, like a bunch of guys who didn't know about it. But Etsy

is the best. Yes. Like people are sleeping on Etsy and I don't think they get it. I'm like truly

any TV show, food, idea, move, season, you can find a thing about the thing.

And even if you can't find it, I feel like you can find someone who would make it for you. You know, like, if you're like, could you do this but make it this? Like, I bet they will, you know. Yeah, it's just, it's vintagey things, like old-timey stuff. It's new little crafts. You're right. It's custom. Because I got one of our friends a pack of 10 match boxes.

And each of them have photos from the Real Housewives of New York on it.

And I bought the 10 random pack.

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