From KCRW Santa Monica and KCRW.com, it's The Treatment.

Welcome to the treatment, the home edition. I'm Elvis Mitchell, and my guests in two series

Underground and her most recent Lovecraft Country has

come up with a new kind of genre, I think. It's sort of horror where the daylight is just as

scary as the nighttime. My guest is a creator of both those shows. Misha Green, Misha, thank you so much

for doing this. Thank you. Thanks for having me.

That's the thing that I think kind of links both these shows, that, you know, that daylight is just as terrifying as nighttime.

Daylight and the history of America. I think both shows, you know, I find that that's scarier than anything I could have made up is the sundown towns and what it was like for people

to be enslaved. So it's always the stuff that I see in the daylight that scares me. The stuff that goes

bump in the night is the fun part. Weirdly, and the stuff you do nighttime seems very dreamlike,

but the daylight seems really kind of stark and know this is where the world is.

It's a, it's always a delicate line. You want to take the stuff that is real and make it feel really

real. And I think, you know, the stuff that happens in the dark, the monsters, any level for me,

they're not going to be as scary as reality. So for me, it's always kind of the relief a little bit from

the intensity of what happens in the daylight. You know, for those of us people color, you know,

the idea of adding horror to the lives we've already lived seems almost like icing on a rotten

cake.

You know, I don't, I see it as the icing on the cake and the cake too.

I'm a huge fan of genre.

I've been a fan of it since I was a kid and I think that one of the reasons I gravitate to it so much is because it allows for me to digest the real horrors a bit.

It allows for me to go for an hour, two hours into this world that I know isn't real,

but I can feel the fear and maybe grapple with the fear that I feel in my real life.

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