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Mirror, Mirror, On The Wall: Can Animals Recognize Their Reflection At All?

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🗓️ 13 August 2021

⏱️ 11 minutes

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(Encore episode) The mirror self-recognition test has been around for decades. Only a few species have what it takes to recognize themselves, while others learn to use mirrors as tools. NPR science correspondent Nell Greenfieldboyce talks us through mirror self-recognition and why Maddie's dog is staring at her.

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0:00.0

The dog days of summer are officially over, which brings us to our last episode of Short Waves

0:06.6

Dog Week. Today, a conversation I had last year with no Greenfield boys about animals and mirrors,

0:13.3

including my barri-owned pup. Stay safe out there, y'all, and remember, make sure to give all your

0:19.0

pets all the cuddles all the times. You're listening to Short Waves from NPR. Maddie Sify here with

0:28.3

MPR Science correspondent Nell Greenfield Boys. Hi, now. Hey, Maddie. So 2020 is almost over. Thank goodness.

0:36.7

And we need to talk about something kind of disturbing that we have both experienced this year

0:41.9

with my dog and your parakeet. Okay, I've told you again and again, it's not my parakeet. It belongs

0:48.2

to the kids. Sure, sure, sure, sure. So since I've been working from home during the pandemic,

0:54.8

I've spent a lot of time with my dog and your dog is very cute. Yes, thank you. It keeps her alive.

1:00.1

And one day, I noticed that she was watching me using the mirrors. Like, I'd wake up,

1:05.6

look in the mirror, and I would see her little border-colle face staring intensely, not at herself,

1:11.9

but me in the mirror. Yeah, I mean, I was skeptical, but you know, you've got the photos and it's

1:16.8

striking. It's, yeah, it's startling, honestly. And I know that your parakeet, sorry, your child's

1:21.6

parakeet is similarly mirror obsessed. Yeah, that's actually kind of a known parakeet thing. It's

1:26.9

not just, you know, our parakeet. They kind of zero in on mirrors and you know, it doesn't even have

1:31.7

to be a mirror. Like, my kid's parakeet doesn't even have a mirror. He's just, you know, whatever

1:36.3

reflective surface, you know, like the side of a water dish or a bell or whatever. I mean, he just

1:41.2

sits there and chatters away at it. Right. So like, what I want to know is what does that bird

1:46.0

think he's seeing? I mean, people use mirrors all the time, but what do animals know about mirrors?

1:52.4

That is exactly what Gordon Gallup wondered back in the 1960s. He actually was thinking about it

1:58.3

one day when he was in his bathroom. And it occurred to me as I was shaving in front of the mirror,

2:04.0

wouldn't it be interesting to see if other creatures, other animals, could recognize themselves in

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