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We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

Miranda Kerr: Why Orlando and I Chose Forgiveness (and how my new husband helped me)

We Need To Talk with Paul C. Brunson

FlightStory

Relationships, Society & Culture, Leisure

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 3 February 2026

⏱️ 82 minutes

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Summary

Miranda Kerr opens up about the moments that shaped her life, from devastating early loss to navigating fame, forgiveness and co-parenting with Orlando Bloom. She reflects on imposter syndrome, life under constant paparazzi scrutiny and explains why she never truly felt like a “supermodel.” Miranda also shares how meeting her husband, Snapchat founder Evan Spiegel, helped her redefine boundaries, family and what a healthy partnership looks like. This is a rare, deeply personal conversation about grief, resilience and motherhood. Miranda Kerr, We Need To Talk Follow me here: https://www.instagram.com/needtotalk  https://www.tiktok.com/@weneedtotalkpod Follow Miranda here: Instagram: www.instagram.com/mirandakerr/ (00:00) Intro (01:38) What Oprah Taught Paul About Lighting (03:35) Miranda's Childhood in Rural Australia (10:28) The Beginnings of Miranda's Modelling Career (15:15) Miranda Breaks Down What It's Like to Be an Aspiring Model (22:52) How Miranda Became a Victoria's Secret Model (26:33) What Is the Definition of a 'Supermodel' and Does Miranda Consider Herself One? (33:28) How Miranda Met Orlando Bloom (35:06) Miranda’s Biggest Lessons From Her Relationship With Orlando and Handling the Paparazzi (39:40) Huel Ad (40:48) How Miranda Met Her Husband Evan Spiegel (47:16) How Miranda Keeps Things Harmonious in Her Blended Family (51:48) Miranda’s Thoughts on Children and Social Media (58:31) We Need To Talk LA Trailer (59:28) Miranda's First Love And Sudden Passing (01:10:55) Miranda’s Mum’s Cancer Diagnosis and the Birth of Her Skincare Business (01:14:51) Will Miranda Remain CEO of KORA Organics? (01:16:50) Most Memorable Conversation (01:19:41) Paul’s Takeaways Sponsored by: Huel: https://my.huel.com/WNTT30 with code WNTT30 for 30% off Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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