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Hi, everyone, from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network.

This is on with Kara Swisher, and I'm Kara Swisher.

My guest today are Aline Brosh McKenna and David Frankel,

the writer and director of The Devil Wears Prada 2.

I'm actually in the film in a cameo playing, of course, myself,

and I can honestly say it's as good or even better than the original.

And that's saying a lot because the original set the bar so high. 20 years after Andy walked

away from working with Miranda Priestley, the media landscape has changed completely.

Brosh McKenna and Frankel have managed to capture the sometimes bleak reality of journalism today

and still make a film that's incredibly funny.

It's also beautiful visually, and it's just a lot of fun, but there's some very deep moments here,

and that's why I'm excited to talk to them.

They have managed to capture the real decimation of the media.

At the same time, they talk about why creativity is still important and why standards matter.

Our expert questions come from journalist and author Amy LaRocca and Lindsay Peoples,

the editor-in-chief of The Cut.

So, stick around.

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