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Love Miranda comes on because I can't wait to hear what Australian band Lewis is going to

play because we always honor Australia.

These guys are the best.

In excess, don't change.

Oh, these guys were terrific.

Miranda, I got to imagine the best columnist in the country, New York Post, Miranda Devine.

She does a great podcast.

I got to imagine InexS, one of your favorite acts from home, yes?

Maybe not.

Is she there?

Miranda, hello.

Hi, hi.

Yes, I absolutely love In Excess, and it was very sad the way Michael Hutchins died, very

bizarrely in a hotel room in Sydney. Yeah, there's a lot of stories about that. You know,

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