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The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.

Mirabai Starr on mysticism for everyone

The Spiritual Life with Fr. James Martin, S.J.

America Media

Spirituality, Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.91.2K Ratings

🗓️ 23 September 2025

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Host James Martin, S.J., explores the mystical dimensions of the spiritual life with Mirabai Starr, an award-winning author, contemporary translator of sacred literature, and world-renowned teacher of contemplative practice and inter-spiritual dialogue.  They dive deep into: - Daily practices that foster mystical experiences, including insights drawn from Mirabai’s latest book “Ordinary Mysticism: Your Life As Sacred Ground.” - The role that death, loss and grief have played in shaping Mirabai’s spirituality and bereavement ministry - The biographies of Catholic mystics, such as St. John of the Cross and St. Teresa of Avila  Link to Fr. Jim’s spiritual advice article on this episode: https://www.americamagazine.org/podcasts/2025/09/23/what-is-mystical-experience Do you have a spiritual question for Fr. Jim? You can write to us at:  thespirituallife@americamedia.org Become a subscriber today at https://www.americamagazine.org/subscribe Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Body, mind, and spirit.

0:03.0

We believe if one needs help, so do the others.

0:06.4

As part of Catholic Health Care's holistic approach to treating the whole person,

0:10.8

here, people are not viewed as symptoms or insurance claims.

0:14.8

And when we treat the body, mind, and spirit, we believe the whole person will thrive.

0:20.5

Catholic Health Care, learn more at we care

0:23.3

you flourish.org sponsored by the Catholic Health Association welcome to the spiritual life

0:34.9

I'm Father Jim Martin on this this podcast, we reflect on how people

0:39.5

experience God in their prayer and in their daily lives. And I'm joined by my prayerful producer,

0:47.2

Maggie Van Dorn. Oh, thank you, Jim. It's good to be here. Yeah. And we have a really

0:53.8

interesting guest this time, Mirabai's star.

0:57.9

Can you tell us a little bit about her, Maggie?

1:00.4

Yes, absolutely. So Mirabai is truly prayerful and mystical. She's an award-winning author, poet, and an internationally acclaimed speaker. She's also a spiritual teacher. As a teenager,

1:14.2

Mirabai lived at the Lama Foundation, which is an intentional spiritual community that has honored

1:19.5

all the world's faith traditions since 1967. She was an adjunct professor of philosophy and

1:25.7

world religions at the University of New Mexico

1:28.4

Tao's for 20 years. Mirabai's youngest daughter, Jenny, was killed in a car crash in 2001 at the age of

1:36.1

only 14. And on that same day, Mirabai's first book, a translation of the mystical masterpiece,

1:42.4

Dark Night of the Soul by St. John of the Cross was released.

1:45.9

So you'll find in this conversation that Mirabai says that this experience and the connection

1:51.0

between profound loss and longing for the divine grounds her own spiritual life.

1:57.5

Mirabai has authored over a dozen books, including Wild Mercy, Caravan of No Despair, and most recently, Ordinary Mysticism.

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