Mira Rapp-Hooper and Steph Haggard Preview the North Korea Summit
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 4 May 2018
⏱️ 43 minutes
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Summary
Only a few months ago, President Donald Trump threatened to rain fire and fury on North Korea and Kim Jong Un’s missiles were crashing into the ocean. Now, President Donald Trump is preparing for a summit with the North Korean leader. To understand what to expect from that meeting, Benjamin Wittes spoke on Friday to North Korea experts Mira Rapp-Hooper, senior research scholar at Yale Law School’s Paul Tsai China Center, and Steph Haggard, distinguished professor at the University of California-San Diego. They talked about how we got here, about what would make the Trump-Kim summit successful, and about predictions for the future of northeast-Asian security.
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| 0:25.6 | no bull and the aftermath. |
| 0:33.8 | This summit is not going to achieve denuclearization. |
| 0:37.4 | I mean, just think of the Iran deal. |
| 0:40.4 | It took us several years to get to an interim agreement and then it took us another three |
| 0:45.1 | years to negotiate the JCPOA and it's an inch and a half or two inches thick. |
| 0:51.4 | The idea that the summit is going to magically generate a detailed roadmap by which the |
| 0:58.2 | North Koreans are going to denuclearize is a fantasy. |
| 1:01.4 | I mean, that's not going to happen. |
| 1:03.6 | We're not going to get denuclearization on day two. |
| 1:08.2 | And Mike Pompeo has already signaled very clearly that he understands that which is that |
| 1:13.3 | this is going to be the initiation of a sustained complicated, painful process of negotiation. |
| 1:21.3 | I'm Benjamin Widis and this is the LawFair podcast May 5, 2018. |
| 1:27.8 | It was only a few months ago that President Donald Trump was threatening to rain fire |
| 1:32.6 | and fury on North Korea and Kim Jong-un's missiles were bombing the ocean on a regular |
| 1:39.1 | basis. |
| 1:40.3 | So it would be hard to blame anyone for wondering how we've made it so quickly to public talk |
| 1:45.8 | about commitments to denuclearize and demilitarize the Korean peninsula in advance of a Trump |
| 1:52.6 | Kim summit in the near future. |
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