What's up everybody?

Welcome into the next past podcast.

I'm Phil Perry.

Really interesting episode for you today because there is a shift. Can you feel it? Can you sense it? Maybe you can even smell it. I don't know. Kind of weirdos you are out there. But there is a shift happening on this Patriots defense, it appears, at least in terms of what they are willing to accept at the linebacker positions. We're getting heavy into that.

We're bringing in pro football focuses.

Deante Lee does phenomenal work on the too high podcast with Seth Galena,

another friend of the next Pat's podcast, does great work with his writing.

He did a Patriots focused piece, a Patriots linebackers focused piece midseason last season,

where he went into detail on how Dante Hightower, Joanne Bentley, how these guys are so big,

such mauling physical presences in the middle of the Patriots defense and how that allows

everything else to work the way that it was working at least in the

middle of their winning streak mid last season. He's just so good, Deante is, at explaining to us

the X's and O's of the game and why things are playing out on our televisions, on the field,

the way they are as we're watching them.

Great guests for us to have on today because, again, change at the linebacker

position for the Patriots.

And how do we even know there is change afoot?

Right.

Well, it's happening right in front of our noses.

The Patriots trade Chase Winnevich for Mack Wilson from the Cleveland

Browns early this week, early in the initial free agency wave. And that is sort of a

shrug your shoulders type of exchange. Chase Winnihivich really not playing for the Patriots,

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