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Pantsuit Politics

Minneapolis & DC (Plus: Taylor Swift's Engagement)

Pantsuit Politics

Lemonada Media

News, News Commentary, Politics, Society & Culture

4.54.9K Ratings

🗓️ 29 August 2025

⏱️ 81 minutes

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Summary

How do we talk about safety without demonizing entire communities? Sarah and Beth grapple with the complex psychology behind violence while examining Trump's federal takeover of DC police and exploring why crime statistics show progress even as public fear remains high. When does federal intervention help versus harm local communities? They analyze the deployment of National Guard troops to DC, the disconnect between data-driven policing successes and public perception of chaos, and what it means when emotions drive policy more than evidence. Why do so many (including us) find so much joy in Taylor Swift's engagement? In Outside of Politics, they discuss the joy of choosing community celebration over doom-scrolling, what this royal-level romance might mean for modern marriage, and why some people want to politicize everything. Ready to go deeper? Visit our website for complete show notes, exclusive premium content, merchandise, chats and more. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Lemonada.

0:02.7

This is Sarah Stewart Holland.

0:15.0

And this is Beth Silvers.

0:16.7

You're listening to Pantsuit Politics.

0:18.6

Earlier this month, President Trump announced a federal takeover of Washington, D.C., due to a crime emergency.

0:26.2

The crime statistics tell a different story as cities across the country experience historic dropping crime rates, but a healthy majority of Americans still feel there is too much crime and broadly support how President

0:38.1

Trump is attempting to fix it. So we wanted to talk about all of that today before we turn as we

0:43.4

always do to what's on our mind outside of politics, which is the engagement of one, Taylor

0:48.4

Allison Swift, to Travis Michael Kelsey. Before we get started, it is a last call here for our summer substack sale.

0:56.6

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1:02.5

discussing it with us in the comments for days.

1:04.7

So if you would like to subscribe for that type of immediate access, take advantage of this sale.

1:09.7

Go to Pansu Politics on Substack. You've got just

1:11.7

days left to save 15% on your annual subscription. We'll have all the links for you to do that in the show

1:16.7

notes. Up next, let's talk about crime.

1:38.5

Music Beth, when you talk about crime, you inevitably have to talk about risk.

1:40.5

You have to talk about the perception of risk.

1:47.5

You have to talk about how fear can run roughshod over all of that. And nowhere is that more evident than with school shootings. Before we talk about D.C., we wanted to acknowledge that there was

1:54.4

a heartbreaking school shooting at a Minneapolis Catholic school yesterday that has left two children dead, as well as the

2:03.7

shooter and 20 people injured. This one hit really close to home for me, Beth, because it was

2:11.0

during prayer, the same as my school shooting back in 1997 that took place during the morning

2:17.4

prayer circle at my high school.

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