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The Conspiracy Tapes

Ministry of Secrets | 3. A Toast to Uncle Joe

The Conspiracy Tapes

Sony Music

History, True Crime, Documentary, Society & Culture

41.4K Ratings

🗓️ 15 March 2023

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

Giles and Sarah find a 2007 video interview made by Crabb’s oldest friend, Sydney Knowles. This explosive interview is full of sensational revelations that will take the Lionel Crabb mystery in a whole new direction. Subscribe to The Binge to get all episodes of Cover Up: Ministry of Secrets ad-free right now. Click "Subscribe" at the top of the Cover Up: Ministry of Secrets show page on Apple Podcasts or visit GetTheBinge.com to get access wherever you get your podcasts. A Sony Music Entertainment production. Find more great podcasts from Sony Music Entertainment at sonymusic.com/podcasts and follow us @sonypodcasts Show notes: Various materials - National Archives Gordon Gutteridge quote - John Bevan, Crabbgate Bulganin And Khrushchev visit, 1956 - British Pathé San Francisco Prison Break Attempt, 1962 - British Pathé Sidney Knowles interview - David Jackson-Wills Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

A quick warning before we begin this

0:07.0

before we begin this episode contains themes of a sexual nature.

0:12.0

In the last episode I went sexual nature.

0:13.5

In the last episode I went off to the National Archives with my producer Sarah, found a newspaper

0:19.4

interview with Crab's ex-wife in which she insisted that Larno Krab was alive and well and living in the Soviet Union.

0:28.0

There are any number of theories about what might have happened to L Krab, but the one certainty is this.

0:36.6

He disappeared, vanished, into thin air.

0:40.9

And this idea of people disappearing, it's always fascinated me.

0:45.0

Because wherever we go, we leave a trail of clues,

0:49.0

bank cards, mobile phones, GPS, and the street cameras and CCTV.

0:55.0

But in Crab's Day, there were none of these things.

1:00.0

So could it have been easier?

1:14.7

Perhaps you know the story of the prisoners who escaped from an American jail in the early 60s, one of the boldest prison breakouts in history.

1:18.0

And that prison was Alcatraz.

1:21.0

Forbidding Alcatraz prison, from which no man has ever been known to escape as its name for impregnability at state.

1:27.0

A daring break for freedom by three convicts triggers a manhunt through the caves with which the rock is riddled and throughout the entire San Francisco. The break out

1:35.0

out of the caves with which the rock is riddled and throughout the entire San Francisco area.

1:38.0

The breakout happened just a few years after Lionel Krab's disappearance in 1956. And those prisoners, they were not just

1:46.6

intending to escape, they were intending to disappear forever. But how? After tunneling through a four inch concrete wall, they climbed up a pipe

1:57.1

shaft to the cell block roof. And in a series of incredible climbs and drops they reached the water's edge.

2:05.0

For most people that water was the prison's most formidable obstacle.

2:11.0

But to the escapees, it was their lifeline.

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