Welcome back to the Steven Universe podcast. I'm Mackenzie Owwood and today we're going

to be doing a behind the scenes look at new episodes of Steven Universe. Today we're

talking about Back to the Kindergarten with the writer who co-wrote it, Ben Loveon.

Thank you so much for coming back to the podcast Ben.

Thanks for having me again, again.

Yeah, for sure. So what are your thoughts after seeing the episode?

Gosh, this is another really interesting one, like having watched Jim Cation also. I

feel like I didn't realize until watching it now, how these similarities between them,

and this really cool way of these characters dealing with this fallout stuff. I think

that was really like, oh man, going through a lot.

Yeah, because Steven sort of, Steven and Jim Cation sort of deals with his whole thing,

and then sort of comes off of that. I think that helped him a lot dealing with paradox,

you know? Yeah, dealing with paradox problem because he had just come off of having a similar

like, just issue. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Steven is bouncing back a little bit from his fallout

with Connie. Now it's time to help his friend, Paradox, so that he can use the bathroom.

Yeah, that's the real reason. That's the real motivation. I thought that it was also

cool, the similarities to all in the run. Yeah.

For this one. Yeah, I think that the writing with this one was like one of those instances

where I think we had several ideas floating up on our idea board, and we ended up just

putting them together. Like, I think that's what happens a lot with writing. We'll just

like, this would be cool. This would be cool. Not least, this would be cool moments,

equal story. But every once in a while, you're like, oh, let's put just those two together

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