Hello, I'm Angela Scanlan and welcome to the Thanks A Million minipods.

Series 4 is on the way with a shed load of new thank yous but while we're waiting,

I thought we'd revisit the thank you next chapter of some of our guests' lives to remind us

that we have got this. I love asking guests about their

thank you next because it is all about silver linings. It's a period in people's lives that has

been and gone which at the time felt like a complete disaster but in hindsight they might even be

grateful for. It's about reframing. It's about thinking of that hardship sometimes or that period of suffering as a lesson rather than a punishment.

I know that can be hard when you're in the middle of it but it's also quite a comforting thing to know that

this is part of the gig it's part of the human gig is this suffering business and those challenges

actually as trite as it sounds are what make us what make us strong and you I could do with a bit of that these days.

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This week's thank you next is from George Manga, aka George the Poet. He is a London-born spoken word performer, poet and rapper of Ugandan heritage.

George started performing rap at 15 years old.

If you haven't heard it yet, his podcast, have you heard George's podcast,

has won multiple awards including five British podcast awards and a Peabody Award just, just after

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