What's up, everyone?

Welcome back to the Charter podcast brought to you by St. Xavier University.

Ruthie Polinsky here with you.

And Alex Shapiro also here with you as we have just wrapped up our, as if we were on the field,

three-day mandatory minicamp.

We were here all three days, you and I as well as Clay Harbor.

We got a good look at an early edition of the 2025 Chicago Bears, led by first-year head coach

Ben Johnson.

Ben Johnson was very, I thought he was very positive today at the

podium, wrapping up this three-day camp. What were your takeaways from the three days and really

how Ben Johnson kind of summarized it all for us today? Positive but also realistic. The three days,

it was interesting to see how he built upon it. The first day, using his own words, it's kind of an extension of OTAs, right?

It was pretty basic stuff, but then they got in some situational stuff,

some things that actually looked like football on day two,

and then today felt like another like football practice,

but maybe a Friday practice a little abbreviated, but move the ball periods,

red zone stuff, two minute drill.

We're like, oh, this looks like football practice.

Now the realistic part, what do you say?

A lot of teaching tape happened over these three days and like, we are not ready for prime time.

That has become loud and clear over these past three weeks,

but that's okay. They're still learning. They're still going through the motions. And I think we saw

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