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Hello and welcome to Fervor 35, a podcast about the things you do to take care of ourselves.

I'm Kate Spencer. I'm Dory Shefrere. And we are not experts. We are two friends who like to talk

a lot about serums. And this here in your ears is a mini episode where we hear from you,

the listeners. And we share your comments and thoughts and answer your questions to the best

of our ability. And please do remember we are not experts with just podcast hosts and we do

always encourage you to seek support first and foremost from a doctor and or mental health

professional as needed. And if you would like to reach us, our voicemail number is 7815910390

and our email is forever 35 podcast at gmail.com. Indeed, tiz. Let's kick things off with a

voicemail.com. Right. I thought this was a very informative suggestion.

Hi, Kat and Dora. This is Susie from Atlanta. I'm actually calling on my way home from therapy.

And thinking about the self-love episodes from last week, you know, I was thinking about

seeing the action that old therapist once told me. And so she basically told me that there are

five different roots of self-love. And I think this might have been an idea. She just came up

with on her own based on her experience. But basically the first one is self-discovery,

learning your true self. The second is self-image, how you see yourself. The third is self-esteem,

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