Welcome back to another mini episode.

This is Pete from the Days of Noah podcast, and I'm here with Rod.

Good to be here with you again, Pete.

Enjoying these mini episodes.

That's right.

Rod, of course, from the Millennial Mustard Seed podcast, and he and I've been doing these many episodes for a while, as you guys know.

And we're starting something new this time, and that is to kind of string together a series along one topic and taking a deeper dive in it, but in bite-sized chunks in many episodes.

And this one might be five, six, seven parts.

We're not so sure yet.

I pictured five, but I could see it going more.

So this was something that, boy, I'm trying to think of how it came to me exactly, but it felt like a Holy Spirit kind of shining a spotlight on something that is very contentious, very debated in Christianity, and that is the idea of eternal security, or once saved, always saved.

And I've had my opinion, of course, as many of you, I'm sure have on that topic, strong opinions,

especially when we look at scripture, one way or the other, because there's verses that

seem to clearly point to that, and verses that seem to clearly point to that and verses that seem to

admonish us to stick with our faith and make sure we finish the race.

So we're going to take a look at this today.

And we're going to start with an observation that people leave the faith of Christianity.

We see that.

We see people, we don't know their hearts, but as best we can tell, for a season, maybe for years, decades even, people seem to have all the marks of a genuine believer.

And at some point in their life, they walk away.

And so we're kind of left with two choices for how to explain that.

The way that I always thought of it was, well, that person must not have been a genuine believer.

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