Mindfulness for anxiety. Fine. But what does that even mean? What if we put three anxiety specialists in the room and ask them to talk practically about how they use the principles of mindfulness when treating anxious clients? Well, this week on The Anxious Truth, that's exactly what we did. So let's get to it.

Hello, everybody. Welcome back to The Anxious Truth. This is the podcast that covers

all things anxiety, anxiety disorders, and anxiety recovery. I'm Drew Lin Salada, creator and host

of the podcast and the YouTube channel. I am a therapist specializing in anxiety and anxiety

disorders practicing in the state of New York.

I am also a former sufferer of panic disorder, agoraphobia, OCD, and depression for many years of my life on and off, but much better now.

A three-time author on the topic, social media, educator, advocate, and guy with a really expensive microphone that gets together every two weeks with friends of mine and talks about

these things. So this week on The Anxious Truth, we're talking about what it looks like when

anxiety specialists, therapists who practice in the area of anxiety and anxiety disorders in OCD

use the principles of mindfulness when working with anxious clients. I'm joined by my friends

Lauren Rosen, Lauren

practices in LA. She specializes in treating OCD, anxiety, and anxiety disorders. And Joanna

Hardis, Joanna practices in Cleveland. She also specializes in treating OCD anxiety and anxiety

disorders. And we're going to talk about how the three of us bring the principles of mindfulness

into our

practices with actual anxious clients who have the same problems that you probably do if you're

watching this particular YouTube video or this podcast episode.

Oh, future me here.

Just a quick note before we get started with Lauren and Joanna.

I want you to notice when we start doing the role play, how different it is from one therapist to another. I trust both of these people implicitly.

They know what they're doing. They have a tremendous track record. These are trustworthy ethical

clinicians who are expert in their field. But notice how Lauren and Joanna take two different

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