Hello and

welcome to being well, I'm Forrest Tanssen.

If you're new to the podcast,

thanks for joining us today, and if you've listened before, welcome back.

Today we're going to be focusing on an aspect of mindfulness practice that represents one of the most important skills we can learn.

First, how we can become more aware of all the

parts of our experience without being overly captured by any one of them, and then second,

how we can work with those parts more skillfully.

To help us learn how to do that, I'm joined by two guests.

First, as usual, clinical psychologist Dr. Rick Hansen,

so Dad, how are you doing?

I'm doing great for us.

Thank you and really looking forward to this topic

and our guest today.

Today we're very happy to also be joined by Dr. Danny Penman.

So Danny is a meditation teacher an award-winning writer and journalist and the co-author of the classic

mindfulness with Oxford professor Dr Mark Williams. Dr Williams was one of the original creators

of mindfulness-based Cognitive Therapy or

MBCT alongside John Teesdale and Zindel-Siegel.

And Danny's work with Mark shared the insights from MBCT with a wide audience. And in 2014, Danny won the the have collaborated again with their newest book,

Deeper Mindfulness,

the new way to rediscover calm in a chaotic world.

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