Mindfulness for Depression, Pain, and Suffering with Dr. Danny Penman

Being Well with Forrest Hanson and Dr. Rick Hanson

Being Well

Education, Self-improvement, Health & Fitness, Mental Health

4.8 • 2.7K Ratings

🗓️ 29 January 2024

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

On today’s episode, Dr. Rick and Forrest focus on one of the most important skills we can learn: how we can become more aware of all the parts of our experience, avoid being captured by any one of them, and work with those parts more skillfully. One of the key tools we have for accomplishing this is vedanā, or the “feeling tone” of our experience. Author and meditation teacher Dr. Danny Penman joins the show to explore the role of vedanā, how we can help our brain interpret the world more accurately, and practical tools for relaxing suffering and enjoying life. About our Guest: Danny Penman is a meditation teacher, an award-winning writer and journalist, and the co-author of the classic Mindfulness with Dr. Mark Williams. Dr. Williams was one of the original creators of Mindfulness-Based Cognitive Therapy (MBCT). Mark and Danny are back with the new book Deeper Mindfulness: The New Way to Rediscover Calm in a Chaotic World. Forrest is now writing on Substack, check out his work there. Key Topics: 0:00: Introduction 1:40: How a major injury started Danny’s professional relationship with mindfulness practice 10:45: Vedanā, and unpacking the different aspects of our experience 18:20: The sensations that precede our thoughts 24:45: How the brain creates a model of reality, and whether that model is accurate 29:40: How an undisciplined relationship with feeling tone creates unnecessary suffering 37:00: Accepting a feeling vs. approving of a situation 44:10: Practical steps to feeling our feelings 48:00: Finding enjoyment in new habits, especially somatically 57:50: Recap You can watch this episode on YouTube. Support the Podcast: We're on Patreon! If you'd like to support the podcast, follow this link. Sponsors: Join over a million people using BetterHelp, the world’s largest online counseling platform. Visit betterhelp.com/beingwell for 10% off your first month! Want to sleep better? Try the Calm app! Visit calm.com/beingwell for 40% off a premium subscription. Connect with the show: Subscribe on iTunes Follow Forrest on YouTube Follow us on Instagram Follow Forrest on Instagram Follow Rick on Facebook Follow Forrest on Facebook Visit Forrest's website Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hello and
0:05.0	welcome to being well, I'm Forrest Tanssen.
0:10.0	If you're new to the podcast,
0:12.0	thanks for joining us today, and if you've listened before, welcome back.
0:15.0	Today we're going to be focusing on an aspect of mindfulness practice that represents one of the most important skills we can learn.
0:22.0	First, how we can become more aware of all the
0:25.4	parts of our experience without being overly captured by any one of them, and then second,
0:30.9	how we can work with those parts more skillfully.
0:34.0	To help us learn how to do that, I'm joined by two guests.
0:36.4	First, as usual, clinical psychologist Dr. Rick Hansen,
0:40.0	so Dad, how are you doing?
0:41.8	I'm doing great for us.
0:42.7	Thank you and really looking forward to this topic
0:45.4	and our guest today.
0:47.1	Today we're very happy to also be joined by Dr. Danny Penman.
0:50.6	So Danny is a meditation teacher an award-winning writer and journalist and the co-author of the classic
0:56.3	mindfulness with Oxford professor Dr Mark Williams. Dr Williams was one of the original creators
1:01.8	of mindfulness-based Cognitive Therapy or
1:04.4	MBCT alongside John Teesdale and Zindel-Siegel.
1:08.6	And Danny's work with Mark shared the insights from MBCT with a wide audience. And in 2014, Danny won the the have collaborated again with their newest book,
1:23.0	Deeper Mindfulness,
1:24.1	the new way to rediscover calm in a chaotic world.
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