So you got a whole alpha team now, don't you?

But you have a wealth of knowledge that is beneficial to a lot of people and we can move the needle.

How often do you hear a hunting podcast?

We were talked about this. People relate to this.

All right, everybody. I've got the great Joel Turner on the podcast.

Joel for those who don't know what's pretty much everybody should know Joel by now.

It's kind of a brain doctor as far as target panic, mental control, things like that.

I think you were also recently on the Rogan podcast. I saw parts of that, which was cool.

But dude, thanks for coming on.

You bet. Thanks for having me.

So on this podcast today, I was just talking to Joel before we got on.

Joel and I from everything like I've paid attention to talk with Joel. We're in the 80, 85%

paralleling and the other 15 to 20. Pretty far apart in some ways.

And I think though a lot of that's probably where my brain is and how I'm genetically wired.

But I want to talk what Joel about, just kind of team up softballs on questions I get,

explaining how the human mind works, why some people are susceptible, usually control freaks I

found are really susceptible to target panic, how to fix that, things like that.

Right. So hit me out of the gate, right? So you've got a background,

law enforcement, SWAT team, obviously, shooting rifles, pistols, things like that as well as

archery. You know, your son is a stud. Obviously, you were able to walk him down the right path.

He can't even drink it and he's crushing full grown adults.

Doing extremely well. And I get these questions constantly on the target panic, the vault, the

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