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Mind Games: Investigating NLP with Alice Hines

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Religion & Spirituality

4.8566 Ratings

🗓️ 13 May 2026

⏱️ 57 minutes

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Summary

In this episode, Rachel Bernstein welcomes investigative journalist Alice Hines to discuss neurolinguistic programming (NLP), its origins, and the fine line between empowerment and manipulation. Known for her reporting on Twin Flames Universe and co-hosting Mind Games, Alice explores how NLP techniques have influenced therapy, sales culture, pickup artists, and groups like NXIVM.

Rachel and Alice examine rapid rapport-building, mirroring, “conscious resistance,” and public claims like instant phobia cures, while unpacking how these methods can become dangerous when combined with coercion, exhaustion, fear, and social pressure. They also discuss ethical concerns, cult psychology, emotional influence, and how to recognize manipulative tactics in self-help and personal development spaces.

This episode of IndoctriNation explores manipulation, coercive persuasion, trauma recovery, and the importance of discernment when evaluating therapeutic or self-help modalities.


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Transcript

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0:00.0

Hi everyone, I'm Rachel Bernstein from the Indctrination podcast, and I want to give you a quick

0:05.7

heads up because I don't want you to miss something really special. Our next Patreon exclusive

0:11.4

Q&A is coming up on June 19th, and these sessions only happen every other month. Every time the

0:19.7

questions are so powerful, the conversations go deep,

0:24.1

and the insights we share are things you won't hear anywhere else. If you've ever wanted to

0:30.7

ask something about cults, something about your experience, something you've wanted to know that

0:35.4

hasn't yet been answered out there, something you've wanted to know that hasn't yet been answered out there,

0:42.9

something you've wanted to know about coercion, generally about manipulation, or the healing process after leaving a high-control group, this moment is for you. Question submissions

0:50.0

and June 12th. So make sure your voice is part of it. Send your questions to

0:57.2

Indctrination Show at gmail.com and join us on Patreon so you don't miss out on this next

1:03.6

Q&A. I'd really love to hear what's been on your mind. Take care. You are not alone. And now there are two resources

1:15.2

that I've put together specifically for your journey. This is your host, Rachel Bernstein.

1:28.5

I am an educator and a therapist and a cult specialist,

1:33.3

and I am very excited to announce restart and restore a journal for survivors of manipulation.

1:43.8

And a companion notebook that I've put together to go

1:47.9

with it, that has people's stories that they've shared with me, that they wanted to share with

1:55.0

you, and some wonderful quotes from people whose thoughts I truly admire and more pages and writing prompts

2:04.7

for you to continue with the writing that can help you along your healing journey.

2:12.8

This isn't just another blank journal.

2:16.5

It's a trauma-informed recovery companion,

2:20.8

and it offers psychoeducation on the mechanics of manipulation and control

2:25.7

and therapeutic writing prompts to explore your history and your strengths,

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