Mind Games: an Interview with Zoë Lescaze
Stuff They Don't Want You To Know
iHeartPodcasts
4.2 • 11K Ratings
🗓️ 27 March 2026
⏱️ 70 minutes
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Summary
Does hypnosis work? Can you really hack your brain into becoming a better person? On the flip side: Can you possibly push people to do what you want, without their knowledge? In tonight's interview, Ben, Matt and Noel welcome the legendary journalist and author Zoë Lescaze, co-creator of Kaleidoscope's hit new podcast Mind Games, to learn more about the strange, controversial evolution of Neuro-Linguistic Programming, or NLP.
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| 0:41.8 | You can turn back now or learn the stuff they don't want you to know. |
| 0:46.9 | A production of IHeart Radio. Hello, welcome back to the show. My name is Matt. |
| 1:03.8 | My name is Noel. |
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| 1:10.6 | Most importantly, you are you, you are here. |
| 1:13.6 | That makes this the stuff they don't want you to know. |
| 1:17.6 | Now, we've talked about something in the past, friends and neighbors, something called |
| 1:21.9 | NLP, short for neurolinguistic programming. |
| 1:26.2 | This is a group term for a series of techniques, strategies, experimental models, all built |
| 1:32.7 | to theoretically help people reach a variety of what we'll call improved outcomes. |
| 1:38.2 | You know, if you have a problem speaking in public, maybe NLP can help. |
| 1:41.4 | It can help you quit consuming tobacco. It might, as we're going to learn, even help you become a sharpshooter. |
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