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Good Life Project

Mind and Matter | John Urschel

Good Life Project

Jonathan Fields / Acast

Education, Wellness, Self-improvement, Midlife, Health & Fitness, Intentional Living, Personal Growth, Living Well, How To

4.53.4K Ratings

🗓️ 30 July 2019

⏱️ 69 minutes

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Summary

Former Baltimore Ravens linebacker, John Urschel, lived a double-life. On the field, he was a celebrated football player, starting out at Penn State before turning pro and playing in the NFL. But, off the field, a profoundly different, yet equally powerful passion and lifelong fascination consumed human--mathematics. Now, a Ph.D. candidate in mathematics at MIT, he's building a life and living around this pursuit, with a vision to teach. He shares insights about this journey in his book, Mind and Matter (https://amzn.to/2JYDtlh). In today's conversation, explore how these dual passions found a place in his life and were nurtured and pursued. We also talk about his time at Penn State, during what was a very dark period, how he personally experienced it and the choices he made along the way.

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0:00.0

So my guest today, John Arshel, played in the NFL, played professional football for the

0:09.5

Baltimore Ravens played as a linebacker.

0:12.3

What it takes to succeed to the work ethic, the talent, the extraordinary grit to get to

0:19.6

the level where you're actually chosen and you're playing in the NFL is an astonishing

0:25.2

story on its own.

0:26.8

So that is not the entirety of John's story.

0:29.9

In fact, from the youngest of times, John developed kind of a passion slash obsession slash

0:36.6

love for math for complex problem solving and found himself actually immersed in the

0:43.2

world of math and mathematics.

0:44.8

From the time he was a little kid, teaching himself all sorts of things just for the fun

0:49.1

of it.

0:50.1

That ended up eventually landing him degrees in mathematics while simultaneously playing

0:55.1

at Penn State for one of the biggest teams in the world in college.

0:59.6

And then as he's wrapping up his pro career, making a decision to go back and pursue his

1:05.6

PhD in math at MIT, which is actually where he was when I sat down with him to record

1:11.6

this conversation.

1:13.2

I love the way that he weaves together.

1:16.0

This deep passion and love for two worlds for football and for math and complex problem

1:20.7

solving is really compelling.

1:22.8

It's all laid out in a new book called Mind and Matter, a Life in Math and Football, which

1:27.6

also has a pretty cool structure.

1:29.3

He literally alternates chapters between math and football, which I thought was a fascinating

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