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Best of Today

Mina Smallman’s Today programme

Best of Today

BBC

News, Daily News

4.0837 Ratings

🗓️ 1 January 2022

⏱️ 33 minutes

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Summary

Mina Smallman, guest edited our first Today programme of 2022. Mina is a former Church of England archdeacon and school principal, who began campaigning on violence against women and equity in how victims are seen after two of her daughters were murdered. Nicole Smallman and Bibaa Henry were murdered in a London park in 2020.

For her programme Mina invited Mishal Husain to accompany her and her family and friends on a difficult visit back to the place where Nicole and Bibaa died, where a tree was being planted in their memory.

Mina also used her programme to highlight the work of Victim Support and chaplains working in prisons, hospitals and rural communities.

Photo: PA

Transcript

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0:00.0

BBC Sounds, Music, Radio, Podcasts.

0:05.0

Hello, I'm Michelle Hussein and this is the best of today podcast. Happy New Year.

0:10.3

We've begun 2022 with a program guest edited by Mina Smallman.

0:14.8

She's a former Church of England Archdeacon and school principal.

0:18.5

And in June 2020, her daughters, Nicole Smallman and Bieber Henry were murdered

0:23.5

in a London park. She had to go through a police investigation that was slow, lack of news coverage

0:30.1

of their deaths at the time, and later she reflected on her loss saying that she'd been given a purpose

0:35.4

to make sure her daughter's lives make a change

0:38.4

in the way black women are viewed. She said, in the pecking order of things, we are the lowest

0:43.4

on the ladder. Just before Christmas, I joined her and her husband Chris, close to where Nicole

0:49.1

and Bieber died for a tree planting in their memory.

0:57.7

On the edge of a park in North London this morning,

0:59.3

there's a small group gathered.

1:03.6

There's a copse of trees, and in front of it is a new one,

1:05.5

which is only half planted.

1:08.6

Its branches completely bare now in the middle of winter.

1:10.8

And Mina has just arrived.

1:12.7

She sat down on the bench by the tree and is looking at it for the first time.

1:18.3

Oh, wonderful. Perfect.

1:21.6

Perfect.

1:23.1

How do you feel, Mina, coming here today?

1:25.7

Today it was hard.

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