Before we start I want to say a few words about former Carson podcast guest Rick Ludwig

who passed away at the age of 71. Rick was a very kind and generous man.

The outpour of tributes from Conan O'Brien and Seth

Maherson Jimmy Fallon illustrates what an amazing individual he truly was.

Recording with Rick was a thrill. I had known who he was for years. I heard from According to when I was in LA. We'd meet up and have these long three-hour lunches. They always

flew by. They were always so much fun and if that wasn't enough multiple times as

we'd be saying goodbye, Rick would slip me an envelope and the inside would be a very generous

podcast donation. That is the kind of man he was. Rick Ledwin you will not soon

be forgotten and now here's this week's episode.

I knew this is where comedy was.

Goni Carson changed my life twice.

It was just like a dream. It was just like everything I had worked for and

dreamed about has come to fruition. They said Johnny fell over laughing. It makes me so happy. I made him laugh.

But with Johnny, you knew you had a kid in one of the

and you could really go great.

My wife at the critical, all held real quick backstage.

People were running up and she said,

go back out, go back out, go back out. Oh my God.

Johnny wants you back. I walked back through the curtain bird home and

Johnny I took about and Johnny put that little circle up at the finger and I knew

I had the line. Welcome to the Carson Podcast, I am Mark Malkoff. This week our guest is the founder of the Magic

Castle, Milt Larson. Johnny was a long time member of the Magic Castle. Milt Larson and I got together at his office

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