Before you listen to this BBC podcast, I'd like to quickly tell you about some others.

My name's Andy Martin and I'm the editor of a team of podcast producers at the BBC in Northern Ireland.

It's a job I really love because we get to tell the stories that really matter to people here,

but which also resonate and apply to listeners around the world.

And because the team is such a diverse

range of skills and strengths, we have trained journalists, people who love digging through

archives, we've got drama and even comedy experts. We really can do those stories justice. So if

you like this podcast, head to BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more fascinating stories

from all around the UK. BBC Sounds where you'll find plenty more fascinating stories from all around the UK.

BBC Sounds, music, radio, podcasts.

That actually passed away like four years ago.

And I think that it kind of gave me his extra, like, just steely determination to do well.

He was around when, like, fanbikes was just a bit of an idea. And he really wanted it to do well. He was around when like, fanbytes was just a bit of an idea

and he really wanted it to do well.

Million by 30 with Sean Farrington.

Hello, welcome back to what is now,

episode two of our new podcast, Million by 30.

I'm Sean Farrington,

presenter of Wake Up to Money on Five Live, business correspondent

here at the BBC. And if you caught episode one, you will know this is all about getting

those irresistible success stories. If people who've hit the million mark, one way or another,

could be their bank balance, the number of followers, they've got views, subscribers,

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