It's the Brian Lairn Show on WNYC. I'm Tiffany Hanson in for Brian today.

We're going to wrap up the show by looking at an emerging trend for millennials as they enter the age when some people start to get married. The rise in

pre-nups. According to a 2023 Harris poll, 21% of Americans say they have signed a pre-nup.

That's about one in five young people. That number is up from only 3%. So that's quite a big jump

from 2010. It used to be that prenups or prenuptial

agreements were something that really the only wealthy did to protect their wealth from their

future spouses. But today, prenups include many young people who don't have much personal

wealth to divvy up. Joining us to talk about her latest reporting on how prenuptial agreements are being

embraced by millennials and gen Ceres is Jennifer Wilson,

staff writer at the New Yorker who covers books and culture. Hi, Jennifer. Hi,

thanks for having me. Yeah. All right, let's just talk about, let's go way back in the

way back machine to 1990 a very public divorce

between Donald Trump and Ivana Trump you know they had a pre-nup they've had a you know

several postnups I think three postnups three this is what most people think about

when they think about pre-ups.

They think about billionaires.

Yeah.

But you're writing in this piece that we're not talking about billionaires now.

We're talking about, quote, unquote, average people, the regular middle class people.

So just let us into a little bit about what you found about their

motivation for this. Well, I think that young people in particular just are less trustful of

marriage. So the person who actually told me that was a woman named Kaylin Dillon. She's a financial

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