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The Politics Guys

Military Conduct, TPUSA, 2026 Predictions, Recommendations and Rants

The Politics Guys

Michael Baranowski

News, Politics

4.4 • 783 Ratings

🗓️ 23 December 2025

⏱️ 23 minutes

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Summary

Trey and Mike join in this holiday-sized show! The pair start with a look into the Pentagon’s investigation into Senator Kelly over his video of illegal orders. Mike outlines the contours of the military code of justice. Trey argues for the need for members of the Senate (and House) to have the ability to speak freely. Next, they move to the ongoing feud between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk over TPUSA and the killing of Charlie Kirk. Trey argues that the future of the political right is who wins in this battle. Mike argues Owens is simply a grifter, but Trey argues that today’s media environment creates unintended consequences for the consumers of a grifter’s product. After that, it is a Politics Guys tradition: making predictions on 2026! Listen for both hosts’ 2026 predictions! The Politics Guys on Facebook | X Check out the excellent Sustainable Planet podcast. Listener support helps make The Politics Guys possible. You can support us or change your level of support atpatreon.com/politicsguys or politicsguys.com/support. On Venmo, we’re @PoliticsGuys. The Politics Guys is part of The Democracy Group, a network of podcasts that examines what's broken in our democracy and how we can work together to fix it. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

Atheists, agnostics, long-haired, weirdos, short-haired widows, vandals, guloghs.

0:06.0

I'm the government, hot the government, love the government, the government, how the government, love the government.

0:11.4

Welcome to the politics, guys, a place for bipartisan, rational, and civil debate on American politics and policy.

0:17.1

I'm Trey Ornorth, a political scientist at Oklahoma Christian University, and I'm joined again on our midweek show with Mike Baranowski, a retired professor of political science.

0:26.5

Mike, welcome back to our extra oversized package holiday gift extraravaganza.

0:36.0

Looking forward to it.

0:37.5

We really kind of went, not off the rails, but we got into some stuff, especially at the end of the weekend show.

0:44.3

I'm looking forward to picking up where we left off and having a good solid discussion about a bunch of stuff.

0:52.0

Yeah, so we got a bunch of stories we got a couple stories we're going to cover.

0:54.7

And then we're going to do some fun things.

0:56.2

We're going to talk about our political journeys.

0:59.7

We're going to have some rants and recommendations.

1:01.1

And we're going to make political predictions for the upcoming year in a new holiday, well, an old holiday tradition for the politics, guys.

1:08.9

So the first story that we're going to get to that we had left off was Hegsteth versus Kelly.

1:15.5

And in some ways, that's not a bad one.

1:16.9

Since my guess is even by the time you're listening to this in the middle of the week,

1:21.9

we probably haven't seen a resolution to this particular one.

1:25.0

But things got really real, if you will, in the ongoing feud between

1:29.9

Senator Kelly and the Pentagon. Last week on the 15th of December, the Pentagon, which again,

1:35.8

the administration has begun referring to as the Department of War, officially escalated its

1:40.6

preliminary review of Senator Mark Kelly into a formal command investigation. Now,

1:46.8

unless you're just deep into these kind of things, your first question is going to be,

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