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Edge of Sports

Militarism & Sports

Edge of Sports

Dave Zirin / The Nation

News, Sports News, Sports, History, Politics

4.8616 Ratings

🗓️ 15 November 2017

⏱️ 36 minutes

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Summary

This week, we speak to Rory Fanning, who served in the Army Rangers with former NFL player Pat Tillman. Fanning would later become a member of Veterans for Peace and a critic of U.S. foreign policy. We discuss nationalism, militarism, and the NFL's role in promoting these virtues.We also have 'Choice Words' about the NFL's handling of Veteran's Day this past Sunday, and we read a very special letter from a listener about confronting toxic masculinity. Rory FanningTwitter: @RTFanning “Worth Fighting For: An Army Ranger's Journey Out of the Military and Across America.”“Long Shot: The Triumphs and Struggles of an NBA Freedom Fighter.”Zirin, Pandering to the Military Won’t Save NFL Players From Racist Backlashhttps://www.thenation.com/article/pandering-to-the-military-wont-save-nfl-players-from-racist-backlash/—http://www.edgeofsportspodcast.com/ | http://twitter.com/EdgeOfSportsPod | http://fb.com/edgeofsportspod | email us: [email protected] | Edge of Sports hotline: 401-426-3343 (EDGE)—Music: Examination - Del the Funky Homosapien | The Letter P - Saigon Feat. Kool G Rap | Ghost Riders in the Sky - Johnny Cash | Recognize - The Lox | Now I Feel Ya - Scarface | Tell Me When To Go - E-40 | Breakdown - Mos Def | Boom - Royce Da 5'9'' | Satisfy You - Puff Daddy Feat. R. Kelly | Thursday in the Danger Room - Run The Jewels | The Wire Theme Advertising Inquiries: https://redcircle.com/brands Privacy & Opt-Out: https://redcircle.com/privacy

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0:00.0

Well, I think Veterans Day is an excuse to celebrate war, essentially.

0:07.0

You know, as we saw this weekend during the games, I think we saw an unapologetic or willian

0:13.1

propaganda, you know, on a scale large enough to make any North Korean dictator envious.

0:17.0

Ultimately, I think what we saw is a gross attempt to lure military-aged kids who watch the NFL into our unending trillion-dollar wars.

0:28.7

Welcome to the Edge of Sports podcast. I'm Dave Ziron. This week, we talk Veterans Day to former U.S. Army Ranger

0:40.4

who served with Pat Tillman and member for Veterans for Peace, Rory Fanning. Rory is also the co-author

0:47.2

of Craig Hodges' amazing autobiography Long Shot, so he more than fits with us here at the intersection

0:54.0

of sports and politics.

0:55.9

Also, I've got some choice words about how the NFL handled Veterans Day this past Sunday.

1:02.5

You're going to want to hear those.

1:04.0

I've also got Just Stand Up and Just Sit Your Ass Down Award, a very special Kaepernick watch,

1:10.2

and a very special letter that I got from a reader

1:13.3

about toxic masculinity that I want to share with you. It's special. You're going to want to hear it.

1:18.4

But first, let's talk to Rory Fanning.

1:24.3

So Rory Fanning, thank you so much for joining us on The Edge of Sports podcast.

1:28.2

Oh, thanks for having me on, Dave.

1:29.3

So before we start, you've done some amazing writing about Veterans Day just as a concept

1:34.9

and its tradition as Armistice Day.

1:37.6

And I think a lot of folks don't know that history.

1:40.0

They don't know that tradition.

1:41.7

And they don't know what Veterans Day was actually supposed to be

1:44.5

relative to what it's become. So can you speak a little bit about what Veterans Day was and what it now is?

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