Mikhail Zygar says the Soviet Union’s collapse was only a temporary win for democracy
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🗓️ 30 April 2026
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| 0:00.0 | Hi there. You're listening to NPR's Book of the Day. I'm Alyssa Adwarni. |
| 0:06.4 | Exiled Russian journalist Mikhail Zegar now lives in New York after fleeing Russia in 2022. |
| 0:12.8 | A court there sentenced him in absentia to eight and a half years in prison after he spoke out about the war in Ukraine. |
| 0:19.8 | In his latest book, The Dark Side of the Earth, he says the Soviet Union's collapse |
| 0:23.9 | wasn't a victory for democracy and that many unresolved issues led to the world order we have |
| 0:29.8 | now. |
| 0:30.8 | He tells NPR's Nick Spicer how the history of Russia helps explain the forces shaping moves |
| 0:36.0 | by President Vladimir Putin today. |
| 0:39.1 | In my book, I cover 30 years. I start with the early 60s, the moment when the first man |
| 0:45.3 | goes to space, Euro-Gygarian, and that's the highest peak of the Soviet civilization. |
| 0:50.9 | And only in 30 years after that, Soviet Union collapses. So it takes 30 years for the country to disappear. And I think what was really important, the Soviet Union started collapsing decades before 1991. Because a lot of people in the Soviet Union stopped believing in any possibility of any bright future for Soviet Union. |
| 1:13.9 | They stopped believing in communism. |
| 1:16.0 | And in late 80s, they saw different perspective. |
| 1:19.8 | They started believing that democratic Russia was possible. |
| 1:24.2 | So I think that psychological dimension was really important. And it's the most |
| 1:31.0 | important approach in my book. So sort of a crisis of faith, it sounds like. Absolutely. |
| 1:36.3 | One of the big changes in the late 80s and 90s, you described that moment so well at the end of the |
| 1:41.7 | Cold War when everything seemed to be opening up, reform, new freedoms, McDonald's, you know, near Red Square. I remember visiting that. In a sense |
| 1:49.3 | that history had turned, but you argued that it had not. Why not? We see now that the world today |
| 1:56.1 | looks like not as if Democrats had prevailed back in the 90s, but on the contrary. |
| 2:04.4 | And today's Russian President Vladimir Putin shares the same rhetorics as the old |
| 2:11.3 | hardcore conservatives used to have in the late years of the Soviet Union. |
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