Mike Schmidt on Stopping a President

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🗓️ 14 September 2020

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Michael S. Schmidt is a reporter for The New York Times, a reporter who broke a number of key stories during the Russia investigation. He is most recently the author of "Donald Trump v. The United States: Inside the Struggle to Stop a President," a new book with exhaustive reporting on the history of the Russia investigation and the confrontations between the president and those in his administration who tried to put the brakes on his most extreme behaviors.

Schmidt joined Benjamin Wittes to talk about the book. They talked about Jim Comey and his wife Patrice; they talked about former White House Counsel Don McGahn, who was in an impossible situation as both a deep believer in the Trump agenda and an informant for the Mueller investigation; and they talked about the Mueller investigation and why it never answered those counterintelligence questions that everyone expected it to address.

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0:25.6	no bull and the aftermath.
0:34.0	The thing about the obstruction section of the report is that the greatest hits of obstruction
0:41.3	all come after Mueller was appointed.
0:44.3	The attempt of fire Mueller, Trump's attempt to get McGann to create a false document to
0:49.9	basically work out on what he had told Mueller's prosecutors.
0:53.8	The best media's part of it come from after Mueller's appointed and in that time is when
1:01.0	they had McGann and it's an astounding level of cooperation.
1:08.5	I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast September 14th, 2020.
1:15.4	Michael S. Schmidt is a reporter for the New York Times, a reporter who broke a number of
1:20.3	key stories during the Russia investigation.
1:23.8	He is most recently the author of Donald Trump versus the United States inside the struggle
1:30.1	to stop a president, a new book with exhaustive reporting on the history of the Russia investigation
1:38.6	and the confrontation between the president and those in his administration who tried to
1:44.9	put the brakes on his most extreme behaviors.
1:49.8	It joined me in the virtual jungle studio to talk about the book.
1:53.7	We talked about Jim Comey and his wife, Patrice.
1:58.1	We talked about former White House counsel Don McGann and the impossible situation he was
2:04.0	in, being a deep believer in the Trump agenda and also an informant for the Mueller investigation
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