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This is Design Matters with Debbie Milman from Design Observer.

Com. Design Matters with Debbie Millman from Design Observer.com.

For 12 years now, Debbie Millman has been talking with designers and other creative types about what they do,

how they got to be who they are and what they're thinking about.

On this podcast, a bit of the man talks with Mike Rigby about his international career and design

and branding and how to stay creatively engaged.

Every event you go to every person you meet,

you know, everything you do is fuel for your next idea, you know?

Here's Debbie Milman.

Mike Grigby once said that in this world there are optimists, pessimists, and there are designers.

Optimists see the glass as half full.

Pessimists see it as half empty and designers see a uniquely shaped glass.

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