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It's Complicated

Mike Pence's Dumb Privilege; Jim Jordan's Circus Committee; Rihanna

It's Complicated

Renato Mariotti

News Commentary, News, Politics

4.71.1K Ratings

🗓️ 17 February 2023

⏱️ 41 minutes

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Pence gets a subpoena and tries a novel, but dumb argument to get out of testifying. The Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government is a circus sideshow. Rihanna puts on a great show. Subscribe to our podcast: https://link.chtbl.com/its-complicated Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/ Subscribe on Youtube:  https://www.youtube.com/@Its.Complicated/   Follow Asha on Twitter: https://twitter.com/AshaRangappa_ Asha's Substack: https://asharangappa.substack.com/ Follow Renato on Twitter: https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti Follow Asha on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/asha.rangappa/ Follow Renato on Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/renato.mariotti/Follow Renato on Threads: https://www.threads.net/@renato.mariotti   Opening Theme and Bumper music provided by eitanepsteinmusic / Pond5 Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0

M-S-W Media.

0:10.0

So, Asha, Mike Pence is Ainsha is challenging the grand jury subpoena for his testimony.

0:16.0

Is he going to get out of testifying before the grand jury?

0:20.0

Eh, it's complicated. I'm Asher Rengava. I teach national security law at Yale University. I'm a former FBI special agent and I'm a Legal and National Security analyst.

0:35.0

And I'm Renata Marriott. I'm a former Federal prosecutor, a practicing lawyer and a legal analyst.

0:42.0

And we're here to help you understand topics that can't be broken down into a sound bite or a week.

0:48.0

So, Special Counsel Jack Smith has issued a grand jury subpoena for Mike Pence's testimony.

0:56.6

And I know you have thoughts on the significance of that, but procedurally he is challenging it on constitutional grounds.

1:08.0

And so that issue has to be decided before he even gets in to in front of the grand jury.

1:17.4

And yeah.

1:19.4

His argument is that so just just as a little trip down memory lane Mike Pence

1:29.7

challenged the January 6th committee's subpoena for him to testify by claiming

1:36.4

executive privilege.

1:38.0

Did he? I thought he just wasn't subpoenaed. I actually thought there was like some secret

1:43.1

agreement between his staff and the January 6th committee because they all were

1:46.8

super cooperative and then they the committee is like we don't need to talk to Pence

1:50.5

because you know we've already gotten all this amazing information from these guys.

1:55.7

You might be right.

1:56.7

They might not have issued it, but he definitely basically said that that would be the

2:01.8

grounds that he would challenge it, that it would be unprecedented for, you know, Congress to ask him to testify about conversations he had with the president.

2:10.4

So he was intimating that he would invoke executive privilege in that

2:13.7

context. Now with this grand jury subpoena, criminal for the criminal justice

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