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The Times Tech Podcast

Mike Lynch’s first post-acquittal interview

The Times Tech Podcast

Will Morley

Business, Interviews, News, Silicon Valley, Business News, Tech, Artificial Intelligence, Business Analysis, Ai, Unknown, Technology

4.9654 Ratings

🗓️ 27 July 2024

⏱️ 77 minutes

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Summary

British tech tycoon Mike Lynch faced potentially dying in a federal prison. But in a 12-week trial in America, he beat all the odds and was found “not guilty” last month on 15 counts of fraud brought by the Department of Justice. He comes on the show to talk about the insight gleaned from a 12-year legal fight (5:30), the need for a British “Innocence Project” (11:30), going back to the origin of the case in 2011 (16:15), how the Autonomy sale went pear-shaped (18:45), why the boring nature of the case may have helped (23:15), what he would say to HP’s former chief executive Meg Whitman (26:15), getting smeared (29:15), how he won (36:30), most deals fail (43:30), getting extradited (48:20), his family (53:00), spending tens of millions of pounds on his defence (56:00), his treatment in British business and society (58:30), advising startups and the public conversation about AI (1:01:15), acquittal day (1:03:00), overhauling the US extradition treaty (1:04:30), how his wife managed (1:08:00), watching the Super Bowl (1:10:30), and feeling like he has won a second life (1:13:40).

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What is it all about?

0:36.9

I get handed over and within minutes I'm in chains, even though I'm in an aeroplane.

0:41.0

In chains?

0:41.1

In the back of an aeroplane.

0:43.5

Like, where am I going, guys?

0:45.3

You know.

0:45.8

What kind of airplane?

0:47.3

A normal United flight.

0:49.0

So you're like walking down the aisle in a united air?

0:51.9

They put me on first because they don't want to worry the passengers

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