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Okay, joining us now is past Arkansas governor and popular communicator of conservative values, Mike Huckabee.

Governor Huckabee also hosts his own hit show, Huckabee, right here on TBN.

Mike, thank you so much for joining us for this crucial conversation.

I'm really excited to talk with you because you can give us a perspective from so many different sides. You've been a pastor, you've been a state governor, you've been a communicator publicly on cultural issues, and you can play bass like flee from red hot chili peppers. I you're my guy. So... Well, that's very kind. What you're basically are saying, Kirk, is that one of these days I'm going to find something I'm good enough to stick with. But in the meantime, I've got all these different things that I've done. But it's such a pleasure to be with you. I so admire you, and I'm very, very happy to get to have this conversation.

Well, you're so kind, and you do wear so many different hats, and I'm thrilled to see that

you're now wearing a beard. I am too. You know, they say that they actually, we have words for

people who don't grow beards, women and children. Yeah, I finally got old enough to grow one.

And I'm thinking about becoming the bass player in a ZZ Top Tribute band,

so I needed to get a good head start maybe in about five or ten years.

I'll have enough whiskers to be able to do it.

That's great.

Well, Mike, I want to ask you this question.

In today's climate, politically, culturally, economically, spiritually, politically, we need good

leaders.

We're all looking for good leaders.

And good leaders are the ones who have been tasked with making the hard decisions. And decisions are

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