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can listen on apple podcast Spotify or wherever you get your pods brad thomas joins us now as we get

ready for the preakness brad welcome how are you i'm good mike how's it going i brad um before i get to uh the field what was your

thought about always dreaman's performance in the derby i think he's a hugely talented horse who

ran to his potential but he did have a lot of things go his way he was one of the ones who moved

up on the surface he was aided by the bias he was also helped by the traffic that the closures got into. He was good, but he's not unbeatable. Okay. And this field, what would you call the fields for this race? I would call it very, very weak, but that's sadly become kind of typical for prequises. Horses who lose the derby, they take the ball and they go home. They're not sportsmen enough to come back again two weeks later and take on the horse who beat them. That's why I really credit Mark Cassidy, the trainer of Classic Empire, for bringing his horse back. And he's got a legit horse that was the best of two who had a tough derby, what he's telling you is I can sit back and wait

and launch an attack in the Belmont or I can wait to the Travis but you know what he's

taking another shot here which tells you a he treats the game right and number two he thinks

he's got a good chance you hit the now right on the head he treats the game right and that's something that a lot more trainers and owners need to do if this game is going to keep going. Classic Empire does not need this race. He's a grade one winner. He's a champion. He's coming back on two weeks because the connections love the game and are playing it the right way, but also because their horses coming out of the Derby great.

All right.

Now, how do you envision this, Brad?

Since we only have 10, let's just go through the field.

Okay.

Multiplier.

He's an improving grinder who's moved forward with experience and belying his sprinting on both

side's pedigree with increasing distances as well.

He hasn't raised against the top company, though, and while he was very game grinding down

the pledger, second or third stringer hedge fund when he made his stakes debut in the Illinois

Derby, he did not run the kind of explosive race, the kind of race that hence did when he beat

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