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Bulwark Takes

Mike Flynn Devoured by the MAGA Conspiracies He Created

Bulwark Takes

The Bulwark

News, Society & Culture, Politics, News Commentary

4.71.2K Ratings

🗓️ 1 May 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

Will Sommer talks with Sam Stein about the latest edition of his newsletter,
False Flag

They discuss how Michael Flynn, Trump’s former national security advisor, went from the premier peddler of MAGA conspiracy theories to being the target of one

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:24.4

Summer, author of the False Flag Newsletter franchise. We're going to be talking about

0:29.6

Mike Flynn, the chief purveyor of conspiracies, getting consumed by a conspiracy theory of his own. Will, let's start by

0:41.4

just kind of laying out the kind of central role that Mike Flynn plays in this crazy universe

0:47.2

that you, I don't want to say you inhabit it. You're like an anthropologist who is kind of

0:52.9

figured out.

0:55.4

Yeah, exactly.

0:59.6

I'm like the nature photographer dressed as an elephant or whatever.

1:00.8

Yeah, yeah, exactly.

1:04.7

You've been staying there for years just to get the perfect shot.

1:06.7

Let's talk about Flynn's role.

1:09.1

Like, obviously he's pushed a lot of the Q and on stuff.

1:10.2

Some people think he's Q. But like, how did he get to this

1:12.6

place? And what kind of role actually is it? Sure. So Michael Flynn was, of course, a general. He was

1:18.7

briefly Trump's national security advisor in the first term. And most importantly, for our purposes,

1:23.1

he was indicted by Robert Mueller. And so because of that, he became a hero to the Trump grassroots

1:29.2

and especially conspiracy theorists who thought that, you know, anyone getting indicted by Robert Mueller

1:34.5

was sort of a victim of the deep state and this hero. And so they positioned him as sort of like a martyr.

1:41.8

Okay. But how did he go from that to being so heavily involved in the Qon conspiracy?

1:46.5

Sure.

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