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Hi everybody, from Wondery, welcome to another episode of Tides of History.

As always, I'm your host Patrick Weiman, thanks for joining me.

So before we get into today's episode, a chat with History podcaster extraordinaire

Mike Duncan, I have a disclaimer.

We're going to be talking a lot, maybe even primarily about present day politics in broad

historical perspective.

Specifically, we're going to be talking about how the ongoing crisis caused by the pandemic

might affect politics, the economy, and future contours of our world.

It's going to be loose and wide-ranging, and it will prominently feature both his and

my personal views.

If you do not think that this pandemic is a big deal, if you do not want to hear our personal

views, if you don't care about present day politics, if you think that this will somehow offend

you, then by all means, go ahead and turn it off now.

There will be plenty of more Tides of History that's more to your liking in other episodes.

Be safe and be well.

If you do decide to stick around, wonderful.

As I mentioned, I'm joined today by the host of the History of Rome and Revolutions Podcasts.

He's also the New York Times bestselling author of the Storm Before the Storm, the beginning

of the end of the Roman Republic, which I highly recommend you all.

He has a new book coming out before too long entitled Last I Saw, Citizen Lafayette on the

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