Hey everybody, Patrick Weimann here. As you probably know by now, I recently released

my book, The Verge, Reformation, Renaissance, and 40 years that shook the world. If you

enjoyed our seasons of Tides on the early modern period, then you'll like this, I promise.

The Verge is out now, and you can order a hard copy, ebook, or audiobook, which I read,

of course, from your distributor of choice. If you have ever been looking for a way to

support Tides of History, ordering the Verge is the best way that you could do it, and

I would really appreciate it. If you're interested, there's a link in the

episode description that will take you there. So, as you might expect, I've been doing

a fair bit of press for the book. At the end of July, I did a live virtual event for

Powell's books in Portland. It's one of my very favorite places on the face of the earth.

I have probably spent more money there than anywhere else. The host of this event was Tides

of History, Favorite Guest, Mike Duncan, the creator and host of the History of Rome podcast,

the Revolutions podcast, and the New York Times best-selling author of The Storm Before

the Storm. He's one of my favorite people in the world, and he's one of the most requested

guests that we've ever had on Tides. So, I had a great time chatting with him. We covered

everything from book writing to podcast writing to the grand scheme of history and how it

works. It was a really fantastic conversation. I had an amazing time doing it, and I hope

that you enjoy listening to it, too. So, you guys out there know that you should

buy the Verge, and you should read the Verge, and I would also encourage you to buy the

Verge and read the Verge, because I read it, and I thought it was fantastic. But we don't

want to do a book report here about the Verge, and really we want to talk about the process

of quitting narrative history together. We both have very similar backgrounds and experiences

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