This is Undaunted Life, a man's podcast. I'm your host Kyle Thompson. Let's get into it.

All right, guys. We've got a special guest on the podcast today. His name is Mike Dragich. He is

a marine veteran MMA fighter, a licensed alligator trapper for the state of Florida and loves Jesus.

Now that that's just got to be enough to at least get your attention for what we're going to be

talking about today. But also he is the founder of Project Savior Outdoors. So their mission is to

fight PTSD and veteran suicide by connecting with the great outdoors and sharing the true freedom

that comes through Jesus Christ. And so this was an introduction by Joby Martin. So he is Joby

Martin's pastor. But this guy, he's such an interesting guy. And in this particular conversation,

we start out with the whole alligator thing because he's gone viral here in the last month or so by

wrestling and trapping this 10 foot long alligator that was in an elementary school parking lot

down there in Jacksonville, Florida. So we talk about the alligator stuff. Like how do you even get

into something like that? What are some of the mistakes that people would potentially make with

alligator trapping or wrestling or whatever that kind of stuff. And so we talk about that.

But we also talk about kind of his crazy upbringing. And at one point during his life,

you know, in his late teenage years, he was actually shot at point blank range and probably

should be dead today, not even probably he should be dead today. But through the grace of God and

through some some healing and some some really miraculous things that happened in his life,

he accepted Jesus Christ. And you know, he's been just forever changed from that moment. You

can just see when how he talks about it. And we kind of weave in and out on this particular

conversation throughout a lot of things. So we talk about the Marine Corps and we talk about

his time there, but we talk about soft Christians and soft Christianity and the problem with a lot of

these churches that either don't focus on the men at all or they just do some men's events. And

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